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I do a lot of reading on here and not much posting, but I thought that I would share some research that I did on the two conferences this morning. (Feel free double check my numbers and add any points that I missed)
• SEC played 101 games as a conference vs teams with a .500 or better record that made the post season. That is 7.2 games per team.
• The Big 12 played 93 games as a conference vs teams with a .500 or better record that made the post season. That is 9/3 games per team.
• The SEC won 42% of those games.
• The Big 12 won 45%. (That number jumps to 54% if you take away Kansas' 0-11 record vs post season teams)
• The Big 12 won two more games than the SEC against post season teams, with four less teams in the conference.
• No Big 12 team played less than 8 games vs a team with a .500 or better record.
• No SEC team played more than 9 games vs a team with a .500 record.
• All but one team that Baylor played (Kansas) made it to the postseason
• Every team that Kansas lost to made it to the post season
• Vanderbilt and Mississippi only had one win against a post season team.
• Mississippi State only had two, and top-10 Georgia only had three wins against post-season teams.
• No Big 12 Team (outside of Kansas) had less than 3 wins against a post season team
The only between league match up was Texas vs Ole Miss. Texas won by 35. The SEC beat them by an average of 11.2
Here is the breakdown of where I got the information from: (PST = Post Season Team, with a .500+record)
Team Wins Losses Wins vs PST Losses Total Games vs PST 2 Best Wins
Alabama 12 1 7 1 8 Georgia & LSU
Auburn 3 9 1 8 9 Louisiana Monroe & New Mexico State
Arkansas 4 8 1 8 9 Tulsa & Jacksonville St.
Florida 11 1 7 1 8 LSU & South Carolina
Georgia 11 2 3 2 5 Florida & Mississippi
Kentucky 2 10 1 6 7 Kent State & Samford
LSU 10 2 5 2 7 South Carolina & Texas A&M
Miss. 6 6 1 6 7 Mississippi State & Arkansas
MSU 8 4 2 4 6 Middle Tennesse & Jackson State
Missouri 5 7 2 7 9 Arizona State & UCF
SC 10 2 4 2 6 Georgia & Clemson
Tenn. 5 7 1 6 7 North Carolina State & Troy
TAMU 9 2 6 2 8 Alabama & Mississippi State
Vandy 8 4 1 4 5 Mississippi & Missouri
Total 104 65 42 59 101
Baylor 7 5 6 5 11 Kansas State & Oklahoma State
ISU 6 6 3 6 9 TCU & Baylor
Kansas 1 11 0 11 11 South Dakota State
KSU 11 1 8 1 9 Oklahoma & Texas
Okla 10 2 7 2 9 Texas & Baylor
OSU 7 5 5 5 10 TCU & Texas Tech
TCU 7 5 4 5 9 Texas & Baylor
Texas 8 4 5 4 9 Oklahma State & Baylor
Tech 7 5 3 5 8 TCU & West Virginia
WV 7 5 3 5 8 Texas & Baylor
Total 71 49 44 49 93
My criteria to count as a post-season team was that the team had to have a .500 record or better, and be playing in the post-season.
• Georgia Tech did not count for Georgia because they were 6-7
• Sam Houston did count for Texas A&M and Baylor as they are playing in the FCS playoffs
• A team like James Madison did not count for West Virginia as they had a winning record, but did not make the FCS playoffs.
This is some fantastic stuff. Up votes for you. Thanks for posting. Post more often please.
great stuff! thanks for doing the work and sharing it with us.
Post more often
Must be an accountant...post more
Ha, sales and marketing actually. I just like to have facts to back things up.
Terrific information! You really should post more often. Good stuff!
Always good to get the facts. Be careful, you may get offered a job.
The SEC has always been judged by its top teams, rather than the conference as a whole. This has tended to give them more credit than they are due. The truth is, the Big 12 eats its own more so than the SEC, because it rarely has more than a team (in this case Kansas, which even so should have beaten Texas at Lawrence) which cannot jump up and bite a leading team in the conference -- there are not many weekends, now, when a Big 12 team has a conference "breather" to rest up on, as TCU and WVU found out in their inaugural season in the conference.
(I purposely omitted the Baylor years prior to the arrival of Briles.)
The SEC has always had several in each section of the conference.
great stuff PABear thanks for posting
This is evidenced by the top 6 teams in the SEC going something like 33-0 against the bottom 8. Talk about a chasm between the good and the bad.
Please send this (and a box of tissues) to Kirk Herbstreit.
That post is full of win
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