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14 months ago

So, that site unfortunately gets the most Baylor related sports traffic and is probably the face a lot of outsiders, including recruits, see of Baylor. I try not to go over their very often, and the presence of the a number of active to semi-active pay sites seems to have helped. But it's still a problem.
Does anyone know the ownership structure there? Who runs it, and are they even a Baylor fan? Some good moderation (and a major cleanup of the site) would go along way. Anyone try to buy it before? What's the asking price?
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14 months ago

I'd like to buy it, and then put "coming soon" on it (but never turn it back on!)
Seriously. Free sites like that, Texags, Killerfrogs, etc. make it too easy for the crazies.
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14 months ago

Tried to talk to the owner about selling it last year, but he never got back to me after many emails. I would just like to fix it up, because it makes us look terrible. I hate going over there and can not be helping us with recruits.
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14 months ago

Jason Stewart is who you are looking for and dont bother with an offer, his perception of it's value is much greater than the actual value. Jason's not a bad guy but he does not believe much in moderation (and there are some settings in which I agree - that is not one of them). There have been numerous attempts to purchase the site from him but I know the price has always been ridiculous.
Every school has a "free board" and all of them are inhabited with the crazies. Just part of life on line these days. I actually use the bfans chat room regularly during game times. Not everyone there is a bad person.
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14 months ago

Nein51,
What is Jason's perception of the value? I am just interested in his idea of the value of the site. School fan boards certainly have increased dramatically in value over the last 5 years.
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He's asking a ridiculous price, $25, I wouldn't go over $20
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Landman said...
Nein51,
What is Jason's perception of the value? I am just interested in his idea of the value of the site. School fan boards certainly have increased dramatically in value over the last 5 years.

I Offered him $250k five years ago. He laughed at me. Said he wouldn't even sit down to talk without a starting bid of $1m and swore he wasn't selling for that.
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bahamabear said...
He's asking a ridiculous price, $25, I wouldn't go over $20

And you know what he said? How about 3.50? damn you lochness monster
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14 months ago

Sites can die over time. Hornfans is now basically dead. Perhaps if enough people move here, and multiple boards are offered for the various sports (as demand justifies), that Bfans swamp can be drained dry.
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And you know what he said? How about 3.50? damn you lochness monster

'Thas what I said, tree-fitty.'
'Dad nabbit woman! Don't give no lochness monsta tree-fitty!'
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BFans has 1.5 things going for it. The 1/2 is its free. That's good and bad for obvious reasons. The other is WBB. WBB is huge at Baylor, but most other sites don't go into it much, so almost all discussion of WBB goes on there. We have a few over here that watch and discuss it, but no more than 5 or 6 people regularly comment on it, and the threads die rather quickly.
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I Offered him $250k five years ago. He laughed at me. Said he wouldn't even sit down to talk without a starting bid of $1m and swore he wasn't selling for that.

You do realize that site generates about 200$ a month in ad revenue? Even accounting for all the pay suckers, that site isn't worth 250k.
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penland365 said...
You do realize that site generates about 200$ a month in ad revenue? Even accounting for all the pay suckers, that site isn't worth 250k.

It's far less about making money than ridding Baylor of a blight, but that amount was also contingent on some information he gave me re: the site that I was not prepared to believe (traffic numbers, sponsors, etc), so it wasn't a realistic number for either of us...
But the bottom line is that I offered it and he scoffed. He's insane.
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It's far less about making money than ridding Baylor of a blight, but that amount was also contingent on some information he gave me re: the site that I was not prepared to believe (traffic numbers, sponsors, etc), so it wasn't a realistic number for either of us...
But the bottom line is that I offered it and he scoffed. He's insane.

For him its a cash flow issue. The add revenue and targeted sponsorship come close to covering his outlays ( he's got crap systems at about $400 a month ).
He makes money off of people that pay for a sponsorship. I would guess, ROUGH GUESS, that he's taking home about ~$1500 a month pre tax.
Of course, he does about 2 hours of work a month for it, and it shows.
Free sites take a LOT of work to do correctly. You have to build community, but more importantly you have to have quality moderation for the first bit to properly "set the tone" of the board. Once that tone gets set, you can back off some as fellow posters drive out the rejects ( and we all know the rejects from BFans days ).
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One reason we have asked for a general board which will possibly bring some posters over here.
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What is ageneral board?
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Just general non-sports topics. We'll moderate it the same, but it will keep sports with sports.
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penland365 said...
For him its a cash flow issue. The add revenue and targeted sponsorship come close to covering his outlays ( he's got crap systems at about $400 a month ).
He makes money off of people that pay for a sponsorship. I would guess, ROUGH GUESS, that he's taking home about ~$1500 a month pre tax.
Of course, he does about 2 hours of work a month for it, and it shows.
Free sites take a LOT of work to do correctly. You have to build community, but more importantly you have to have quality moderation for the first bit to properly "set the tone" of the board. Once that tone gets set, you can back off some as fellow posters drive out the rejects ( and we all know the rejects from BFans days ).

I understand the economics and strategy of online communities. I've manage them and consulted for them.
Properly managed, Baylorfans should've be worth between $3-5k / month PDQ. With some relatively easy to make changes, that number could be much higher.
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One reason we have asked for a general board which will possibly bring some posters over here.

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So like a chit chat. I think that makes it more a community.
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Burn it down
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