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He was called for an elbow on Withey during one of the free throws and the officials ruled that their was "intent" with the elbow. I doubt it will happen, but there is a possibility the conference sits him down for a game.

There was intent. On the second shot, I think. He hit Whitney with his elbow not in the face but more in the chest, and it knocked him back. It was in no way an incidental contact play.

I am glad Drew sat him down. There is no reason to play like that.

The play WAS very different looking. Acy boxed both across the lane and BACK into Withey. Miller seemed to go straight into Withey's back--HARD! And didn't seem too concerned with where the ball might be at the time. A yellow/blue/yellow sandwich of rather tall proportions.

Not sure of "intent" to the degree of suspension, but the word "incidental" would never come to mind.

I think there needs to be some perspective. I may be wrong, but I believe Quincy was trying to give everything he has because he is so scrawny and he doesn't have the strength to simply put a forearm in someones chest and hold them off it looks much worse.
There was obvious intent to create contact, but if there is not intent to contact the opposition while rebounding your not trying. It was a foul, but I don't think he was trying to hurt him. Led with his shoulder and the arm and elbow followed. Thomas Robinson could and probably did do a lot more damage during the game with a much less violent move since he is 10X stronger than Quincy.

According to the sideline reporter, the refs had already given him a few warnings. He did not listen, and they felt they really had no choice. They couldn't continue to let him continue to do it. I don't think a suspension is warranted, however. That was a serous momentum killer, what we had. The stoppage of play while the officials discussed it. Just coming off of free throws for KU, gives them two more free throws and posession. That was a turning point early.

And then they took that possesion and scored a 3. That was a 7 point possession without us touching the ball.

Lance,

I just sent you a totally off topic PM.

Yeah, that was a dagger.

I don't think that him being in would have changed anything. He was making some bad decisions prior to that. The team just quit. We have enough talent and depth to absorb him not being in. It was a team effort loss on our part, and a team effort win by KU.

I agree with Bryan and some others. I thought the foul was legit and Scott sitting him was a good thing. If he is suspended I would be very surprised.

Call was legit and he should have been sat down. No way he gets suspended.

And whoever said this was a team effort loss is 100% correct. That is my biggest problem with this team, very similiar to last year. There is very littel hustle once we get into the grind it out minutes or the other team goes on a run. Last night there was more than one occasion where one of our guys would disrupt a pass, but the other guys were so busy watching they were slow to react. as a result KU would recover and put it in for two (a couple times three) increasing their lead and $itch slapping any confidence we had left.

We play horrible weak side defense, no movement without the ball, and we watch P Jack and PJIII play high pick and roll in a 5 v 2 game. If we aren't doing that, we are taking contested three pointers or 20' jumpers with 20+ seconds on the shot clock. Really frustrating. If we make the sweet sixteen I will be ecstatic. I am glad we are 21-3, but if we would play with more hustle, the games we won by 2-3 points, we would have won by more (as I think we should have in most cases) and we wouldn't have been embarassed by KU. Just my $0.02.

X- the condescending tone isn't necessary. I don't know either of you two guys, but it's fine to disagree with each other. Beating up on each other isn't the point of this forum, however. Let's keep this site different from some of the other ones out there.