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Redskins/Cowboys docked cap space

  • The Cowboys and Redskins have been docked cap space by the NFL for front-loading contracts during the uncapped 2010 league year.

    Cowboys $10mm
    Redskins $36mm

    Yes, $THIRTY SIX MILLION!!!! It can be spread over the next two league years, but that is a monster hit.

    I don't think Griffin will be playing for the Redskins.

    Your name's Lebowski, Lebowski. Your wife is Bunny.

    trey3216

  • trey3216 said...

    The Cowboys and Redskins have been docked cap space by the NFL for front-loading contracts during the uncapped 2010 league year.

    Cowboys $10mm
    Redskins $36mm

    Yes, $THIRTY SIX MILLION!!!! It can be spread over the next two league years, but that is a monster hit.

    I don't think Griffin will be playing for the Redskins.

    Huh?

    Unless he's drafted by the Colts, RGIII will be a Redskin. As far as the cap space, skins are releasing guys still so while that's a hit, it's not going to be a deal breaker for them.

    No Prisoners

    Dubbicans

  • The 'trade' isn't official until tomorrow, therefore it can be rescinded today. If you're the Redskins, can you afford to have 1) No first round draft picks for the next 2 years and 2) No salary cap money to go after free agents.

    You can have one or the other, but not both.

    Your name's Lebowski, Lebowski. Your wife is Bunny.

    trey3216

  • trey3216 said...

    The 'trade' isn't official until tomorrow, therefore it can be rescinded today. If you're the Redskins, can you afford to have 1) No first round draft picks for the next 2 years and 2) No salary cap money to go after free agents.

    You can have one or the other, but not both.

    Can they afford to? no

    is Dan Snyder dumb enough to go ahead and make the trade happen? Absolutely

    http://twitter.com/Rog_TheSpread

    Dancing Bear1

  • Dancing Bear1 said...

    Can they afford to? no

    is Dan Snyder dumb enough to go ahead and make the trade happen? Absolutely

    May not be Snyder's call. I would not be at all surprised if Griffin's agent has already made a call to their front office and "advised" them to look elsewhere for their 1st pick.

    RebelT

  • You guys are kidding right? There is no way the Redskins all of a sudden back out of this. They have what, roughly $50 million in cap space before this hit? So they can spread it out over 2 years, or just take the hit next year. If you're Washington this will have ZERO influence on your decision to trade.

    No Prisoners

    Dubbicans

  • Dubbicans said...

    You guys are kidding right? There is no way the Redskins all of a sudden back out of this. They have what, roughly $50 million in cap space before this hit? So they can spread it out over 2 years, or just take the hit next year. If you're Washington this will have ZERO influence on your decision to trade.

    Yep. 32 million in cap space before they drop the other players off the team leaves them with enough to buy an entire team.

    @TruthOrBear247

    Brian Ethridge

  • Is Robert smart enough to be on the phone today and say "Don't make this trade to draft me, I will hold out". I bet he is.

    Olympics
    No dead in the water team drafting me
    Get married

    I'm sure he can find some other things to do.

    Your name's Lebowski, Lebowski. Your wife is Bunny.

    trey3216

  • The hit puts them right at the cap. If i'm Robert, there's no way I'm going to a team that is both cap-strangled and draft-dead.

    Your name's Lebowski, Lebowski. Your wife is Bunny.

    trey3216

  • trey3216 said...

    The hit puts them right at the cap. If i'm Robert, there's no way I'm going to a team that is both cap-strangled and draft-dead.

    They aren't cap strangled. They can spread the hit out over two years, and that's if they don't release players to free up more space (which they will). Washington has had 20 QBs in 15 years. You have 1 chance to draft a player like Griffin. You will do this. What are Roberts other options? Cleveland? No way. Hard to pull against the Browns but they're easy to pull for because they suck. Olympics aren happening. Him wearing burgundy and gold are.

    No Prisoners

    Dubbicans

  • Holy shizzle this would be such great karma if Robert to the foreskins gets nixed.

    Go be a Brown. Very solid Defense, just need skill players.

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    Bear15

  • Dubbicans said...

    They aren't cap strangled. They can spread the hit out over two years, and that's if they don't release players to free up more space (which they will). Washington has had 20 QBs in 15 years. You have 1 chance to draft a player like Griffin. You will do this. What are Roberts other options? Cleveland? No way. Hard to pull against the Browns but they're easy to pull for because they suck. Olympics aren happening. Him wearing burgundy and gold are.

    WIth the amount of pieces they need, they are very cap-strangled. They need: 2 running backs, 2 WR's, at least 2 and probably 3 OL, another safety (If Landry keeps getting hurt and/or roid lifting). That's a lot of money. That's a lot of pieces.

    Your name's Lebowski, Lebowski. Your wife is Bunny.

    trey3216

  • Mediocre division and beat the defending Super Bowl champs. Twice. What 5-11 team doesnt need pieces. Of the teams that he could go to, Washington is far and away the best place for him. This is a 15 year decision, not 2 year decision. Their running backs are fine. They need 1 go to receiver (hello Vincent Jackson) and you're spot on about the O-Line. But you're just as likely to find those guys in round 3-7 as you are the middle of 1. Again, they will still had money to spend, just not as much. You still go and get him because you may never again have the chance to draft a guy with his talent.

    No Prisoners

    Dubbicans

  • Redskins are $50 mil under the cap rigt now and $37 mil under the cap for 2013. This is nothing for them

    No Prisoners

    Dubbicans

  • I don't think some in here understand how the NFL works in terms of cap space and money.

    There is absolutely NO WAY they have the ability to sign what they need to be competitive over the next 2 years now. Simply none. They aren't looking for depth in the draft or free agency, they're looking for STARTERS, and with this, they aren't going to be able to do it. That means they're going to be relying on the draft, and as someone told me, "They draft like the Raiders."

    Robert needs to be on the phone yesterday telling them he's not going to play for them.

    RebelT

  • RebelT said...

    I don't think some in here understand how the NFL works in terms of cap space and money.

    There is absolutely NO WAY they have the ability to sign what they need to be competitive over the next 2 years now. Simply none. They aren't looking for depth in the draft or free agency, they're looking for STARTERS, and with this, they aren't going to be able to do it. That means they're going to be relying on the draft, and as someone told me, "They draft like the Raiders."

    Robert needs to be on the phone yesterday telling them he's not going to play for them.

    Their defense was competitive last year. Their passing was anemic. They may not be fixed next year, but with essentially $50 million in cap space over the next two years, they're not as far as you think.

    I think we're just going to disagree on this, but they don't need to buy a bunch of superstars. You can get solid talent in this league to fill gaps, but the biggest gap they have right now is behind center. Welcome to the Nations Capital Robert!

    No Prisoners

    Dubbicans

  • Dubbicans said...

    Their defense was competitive last year. Their passing was anemic. They may not be fixed next year, but with essentially $50 million in cap space over the next two years, they're not as far as you think.

    I think we're just going to disagree on this, but they don't need to buy a bunch of superstars. You can get solid talent in this league to fill gaps, but the biggest gap they have right now is behind center. Welcome to the Nations Capital Robert!

    And in 2 years they'll need to be replacing 10 starters or more, and still not have a first round draft pick.

    Your name's Lebowski, Lebowski. Your wife is Bunny.

    trey3216

  • trey3216 said...

    And in 2 years they'll need to be replacing 10 starters or more, and still not have a first round draft pick.

    What 10 starters will they have to be replacing?

    No Prisoners

    Dubbicans

  • Dubbicans said...

    What 10 starters will they have to be replacing?

    Both WR's, TE, RB, and either RT or LT.

    The entire secondary. 1 DE, MLB

    Your name's Lebowski, Lebowski. Your wife is Bunny.

    trey3216

  • Why do they have to replace all of the above?

    I think your points are valid, I just disagree. 2 first round draft picks don't replace 10 starters (and I think who they must replace is debatable). You HAVE to spend money somewhere. You also have to hit on draft picks in rounds 2-7.

    No Prisoners

    Dubbicans

  • Dubbicans said...

    Why do they have to replace all of the above?

    I think your points are valid, I just disagree. 2 first round draft picks don't replace 10 starters (and I think who they must replace is debatable). You HAVE to spend money somewhere. You also have to hit on draft picks in rounds 2-7.

    Landry is going to David Boston his way out of the league.

    They already cut their other safety.

    Hall is old

    Their other corner is ok.

    WR's = All old

    TE = don't have to replace if they keep Davis, but still need 2 good ones in today's league

    LT/RT will be at 10 years in 2 years. That's about replacement time at the tackle position

    Fletcher is in his 15th year, can he make another 2-3??

    Bowen's contract will be up in 3 seasons. HE's an average player.

    Your name's Lebowski, Lebowski. Your wife is Bunny.

    trey3216

  • trey3216 said...

    Landry is going to David Boston his way out of the league.

    They already cut their other safety.

    Hall is old

    Their other corner is ok.

    WR's = All old

    TE = don't have to replace if they keep Davis, but still need 2 good ones in today's league

    LT/RT will be at 10 years in 2 years. That's about replacement time at the tackle position

    Fletcher is in his 15th year, can he make another 2-3??

    Bowen's contract will be up in 3 seasons. HE's an average player.

    I agree but I think you can address every need in rounds 2-7 as well as free agency.

    You're right about Landry. Great analogy. Meangelo has always been over rated. Their biggest need is OL and Winston just got released by the Texans today

    No Prisoners

    Dubbicans